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    Harley-Davidson to close it's Kansas City manufacturing plant by Summer 2019.

    Just over a week ago H-D announced the closure of it's manufacturing facility in Kansas City, Missouri, with the loss of 800 jobs. Kansas City's main production is Sportster models, they also used to make the V-Rod there. A downturn in sales has been blamed for the closure.

    My XL883N Iron was built in that plant.

    Kansas City's production will be transferred to H-D's York facility in Pennsylvania.

    Here is a short video about the closure.

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    Such a shame ,hope they all find new work .

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    My Iron too. HD siting increase in taxation. So much for Trumps America first bullshit and his taxation cheap. Sad all those workers losing their jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistler View Post
    My Iron too. HD siting increase in taxation. So much for Trumps America first bullshit and his taxation cheap. Sad all those workers losing their jobs.
    Yeah, it's a terrible shame for the Kansas workers. But I read in this week's MCN that HD will be spending £17M - £34M in the next few years on developing their Project Livewire electric bikes. One day we'll all be riding these...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alec L View Post
    Yeah, it's a terrible shame for the Kansas workers. But I read in this week's MCN that HD will be spending £17M - £34M in the next few years on developing their Project Livewire electric bikes. One day we'll all be riding these...

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    Not me, I'm . A confirmed petrol head. I'd rather run my bike on bio oil than go electric.

    As you say HD are spending over the next few years developing their wheeled hairdryer and other models. Their statement basically said it made more business s aense to consolidate manufacturing in one place and reduce their costs and newly increased tax bill.
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    I saw a video on YouTube which blamed H-D's problems on the Millennials, the younger generation are simply not interested in buying and riding motorcycles.

    People say that H-D are an old fashioned company producing out of date products, the "Livewire" is a modern product and it is the future for H-D's sales.

    By 2040 new motorcycles with internal combustion engines will be illegal, H-D has to change and keep up with the times or it will die, the "Livewire" is the key to Harley-Davidson's survival. It doesn't matter if we, the older generation don't like the "Livewire" it's not intended for us, it's targeting the young 'uns. In 2040 I'll be 84 years old, so I'll probably have given up riding by then anyway.

    I commend Harley-Davidson for it's "Livewire" project, a modern product for a modern world. There are rumours that the H-D electric bikes will go on sale in 2020, we'll have to wait and see.

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    If the livewire is the future of the MOCO, I'm glad I'll not be looking to buy a new bike when I'm about 74. Harleys plan for all the new models was always about appealing to a younger generation. It started with the Street and then the softails. I hope it works out for the company, if their successful it'll keep me in t shirts and services/parts for my Iron. The article I read said their tax bill had gone up significantly with the taxation in America, and they want want to invest in future development. Something had to give.
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    what bikes do they make the most margins on

    i would of thought (maybe wrongly, and as a generalisation), that the sportier bikes for the young, have less margin than the cost plus range of upgrades for the tourers, cruisers for the older guys

    a lot of harley money must be made on the customizing side, otherwise its pure margin on the bike itself

    i think they face a real dilemma, when you say at this time, to somebody you have a harley, the word creates the picture. that i expect will diminish as bikes evolve, from what is considered a classic harley

    its not HD's fault obviously as times moves forwards, and i am sure, at heart, they wish time could stand still. i think though as laws and bikes evolve, they will face a hard battle to survive.

    some could say, rightly, that this has happened to HD many times already, as ICE bikes has evolved, but i just wander if it will or can transfer, when its from ICE to electric

    i am just glad, i am living the here and now, with my harley. if i can squeeze another 15 years, i'll go out with a smile.

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    Harley sales are healthy in the Europe with the Iron, 48, Streetbob, fatboy and Slim models. In the state's it's the baggers that are the biggest sellers. I plan on keeping my Iron for the rest of the time I ride, if I was to replace it would be another Iron or equivalent.
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    That's sad. Kansas City is the middle of nowhere, too. They need those jobs.

    Having said that, love the escort-like lipstick treatment on the lady!

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